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T O P I C R E V I E WtuxedoMaski had a date tonight.. it was very pleasurable.. we fooled around, whatever.. i've been told previously that i was too 'aggressive' when it came down to it.. i can't explain it, something just clicks and i'm a '16-wheeler' all of a sudden (that was the new term i now have been described as after tonight)if i can't so much unleash that monster out like that (pluto opposing one's ascendant can really be, from what i gather, overwhelming).. --what am i gonna do about everything else that i'm about? i never know how to go about it.. i was advised to save some of my 'drive' for about maybe chapter 2 or 3 or, ykno, just save it for later.. but i don't f*ckin read because i don't have the patience for it! so what the f*ck do i do!?when the hell does it then become ok to let people know about everything else that has shaped you or has you reacting to things the way you do? i don't know if it might be me but i feel that when i share something with someone, it's really the tip of the iceberg and once i share that, they wanna know the rest and it turns into one big ol life in a short amt of time.. is it me? i don't know if much a lot of other people have experienced as much as i have because of how different my upbringing has been.i don't know if perhaps people just don't unleash the beast, ever, and there is always a world apart between you and somebody else and maybe yeah, sometimes even the person you spend your time and share your bed with. quote: http://youtu.be/pta5EkArXgA NativelyJoanFrom reading your posts on the forum and getting a chance to understand you better I'd say you're a very passionate person. You've probably dealt with a lot in your life and that just adds to the intensity of who you are. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because in a sense I'm the same way but other people might not be on the same intensity level as you. Which of course isn't anyone's fault it's just that we are all very different. You might have trouble being yourself if you feel like you have to hold back and what's the point. If you can't be yourself with other people you might as well not even try, it's exhausting to pretend to be someone your not. You're probably a person that's not only experienced many things but is repeatedly growing and changing shades as you evolve. Which I think everyone experiences but we all experience it at different paces. I'm a very intense person, I can intimidate people by just sitting quietly, I have Mars Rising. And when you get me talking about something I'm very interested in and passionate about a different side of me comes to the surface. I can be very aggressive and you can hear the passion in my tone. I hold back when I need to stay composed in appropriate situations however when I'm around my family and friends or relationship partners it's a ball. We are all passionate and we get to be ourselves around each other and not hold back. I can only be myself if I can be honest and expressive if I can't I hold back and feel like I'm being dishonest with myself.It's hard having so much passion it feels like it's going to burst out of you and having to stay composed for what feels like every moment. Stay true to yourself, one day you'll find someone who will be in awe of your passion and drive. Like you the beast comes out naturally, I can keep it underwater for as long as I can stand it but if I'm true to myself the beast stays happy and doesn't remain dormant and come out when I and the world least expects it. I have Moon and Mars in Aries.YoursTrulyAlwaysIts not just about passion when you are young. If you can carry that into your 70s, that would be great. Just don't fizzle out with age.RedScorpHmm...dunno, man. I guess that one person just didn't have what it takes to handle you? Like, this one relationship I was in once said:"Can you express your feelings for me in a manner different than...that?"And I said "NOPE!" but then later tried and it made me supah unhappy (probably because they asked I hold hands in public and not be afraid to cuddle in front of guests ALL THE TIME).So, Aries Mars, I don't blame you, if my own PASSION! can sympathize.RedScorpAlso, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN, Tuxy-baby?anongrl10Joan speaks my mind.Be yourself. The right person will appreciate it. I know where you're coming from; Mars in on my ASC and trining Uranus (my chart ruler), squaring my Venus and my Moon. I'm sweet and mellow (Venus in Scorpio) until you step on my toes on purpose. LOL And yes I'm quite fiery and some people have criticized this about me. But you know what. You gotta love yourself. Nobody will ever understand YOU and accept YOU more than YOU yourself. tuxedoMask quote:Originally posted by anongrl10:Joan speaks my mind.Be yourself. The right person will appreciate it. I know where you're coming from; Mars in on my ASC and trining Uranus (my chart ruler), squaring my Venus and my Moon. I'm sweet and mellow (Venus in Scorpio) until you step on my toes on purpose. LOL And yes I'm quite fiery and some people have criticized this about me. But you know what. You gotta love yourself. Nobody will ever understand YOU and accept YOU more than YOU yourself. that's what kinda scares me.. i feel like i'll be with someone and live something not unlike that mr & mrs. smith movie or eyes wide shut.. btw, eyes wide shut is one of my favorite movies of all time because i think it's just FANTASTIC!!! but living that out in a real life scenario? kinda freaky.. that's what i think i already feel like.. if it were the case where NO one ever knows or spends enough time with someone to understand or trust or know what the other one is all about, then ok, someone just say the word so that i can get a move on and go from there.. because i feel we've been sold these fairy tale dreams of how relationships are supposed to go and --whateva.. i don't want to go off on a rant but i'd just prefer knowing where everything and everyone stands to know where i'll be going and from there, at least know what would be appropriate to share and not to share.. because for some reason i have this belief that you're supposed to share all of you but all of me is a lot, man.. i dunno how comfortable i'd feel in sharing all that.OR IF I'VE GOT THE TIME!!!!! quote:Hmm...dunno, man. I guess that one person just didn't have what it takes to handle you? Like, this one relationship I was in once said:"Can you express your feelings for me in a manner different than...that?"And I said "NOPE!" but then later tried and it made me supah unhappy (probably because they asked I hold hands in public and not be afraid to cuddle in front of guests ALL THE TIME).So, Aries Mars, I don't blame you, if my own PASSION! can sympathize. LOL!!!!!! "NOPE!" pretty much! what's in ur seventh, boo boo?i've missed u pookie!i remember one relationship with a person that was from the get-go trying to get me to question my ways.. they would do small stuff like try to ask me why i was late somewhere when the time we agreed to meet didn't get them somewhere on time.. i remember i had made it a point to make it there the time we agreed upon and they kept pushing the issue trying to get me to question if maybe i was mistaken... i found out eventually that they were VERY wrecked!! they played all sorts of tricks to get me to do things i wasn't so much comfortable with kinda like the cuddle thing.. last night, i felt like a weirdo..after that experience of having someone be underhanded to try to get me to question myself (which would let my mars come out full blast --then they'd back off and say something like 'whoa man, what's your problem'.. ummm, helooo!?) reading these replies and taking that weirdo-ness and running with it, make me feel way more comfortable than trying to change it or hide it to then be molded into what someone else wants and be utterly unhappy and completely disoriented! not a nice feeling!!!!!!!!!i'm thinking that there's no end and it's a lifelong thing.. i went to this fetish party a few days ago thinking i'd feel more at ease around people in that community and not so much.. they were more accepting and open but then my 'normalness' was kind of pointed out by some of them..proverbial sisyphus. quote:Also, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN, Tuxy-baby? think i've done a little good since last time we talked.. yesterday was the only day that i can think back to as of late that i've been able to have a nice time relaxing because before that, since we talked and in between til now, things were sooooooooooooooo hectic! i was not stopping! i was doing 26 hr days with about 3 hrs of sleep in between and running on energy drinks and not much of anything else!i've been wanting to really just find my footing again and maybe enjoy some grounding to a healthy extent.. so much has happened in just a few days.don't where where i'd begin so i think i might start today by doing some fall cleaning but, alas, i think it always starts that way and it only does the trick temporarily :/tuxedoMask quote:Originally posted by NativelyJoan:From reading your posts on the forum and getting a chance to understand you better I'd say you're a very passionate person. You've probably dealt with a lot in your life and that just adds to the intensity of who you are. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because in a sense I'm the same way but other people might not be on the same intensity level as you. Which of course isn't anyone's fault it's just that we are all very different. You might have trouble being yourself if you feel like you have to hold back and what's the point. If you can't be yourself with other people you might as well not even try, it's exhausting to pretend to be someone your not. You're probably a person that's not only experienced many things but is repeatedly growing and changing shades as you evolve. Which I think everyone experiences but we all experience it at different paces. I'm a very intense person, I can intimidate people by just sitting quietly, I have Mars Rising. And when you get me talking about something I'm very interested in and passionate about a different side of me comes to the surface. I can be very aggressive and you can hear the passion in my tone. I hold back when I need to stay composed in appropriate situations however when I'm around my family and friends or relationship partners it's a ball. We are all passionate and we get to be ourselves around each other and not hold back. I can only be myself if I can be honest and expressive if I can't I hold back and feel like I'm being dishonest with myself.It's hard having so much passion it feels like it's going to burst out of you and having to stay composed for what feels like every moment. Stay true to yourself, one day you'll find someone who will be in awe or your passion and drive. Like you the beast comes out naturally, I can keep it underwater for as long as I can stand it but if I'm true to myself the beast stays happy and doesn't remain dormant and come out when I and the world least expects it. I have Moon and Mars in Aries.wow.. what does your chart look like?> i feel such a close connection to you and everything that you've said when we exchange posts.. it's like we're 'there' !RedScorp quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask:what's in ur seventh, boo boo?i've missed u pookie!Oh Tuxy-baby. I have an empty seventh house, descendant in Aries. Uh, Mars in 10th. Mercury and Venus in the 1st.And speaking of descendants, my Sun is exactly on yours... quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask:think i've done a little good since last time we talked.. yesterday was the only day that i can think back to as of late that i've been able to have a nice time relaxing because before that, since we talked and in between til now, things were sooooooooooooooo hectic! i was not stopping! i was doing 26 hr days with about 3 hrs of sleep in between and running on energy drinks and not much of anything else!Damn, nigga, sounds intense. What do you work as? If I recall correctly, you mentioned something about a photo shoot... ARE YOU A MODEL? :'DI suppose that's where you've been, hm? Living dat busy life. Well alright, I tried not to miss you (tried being a key word). >w>One more thing! I'm sorry I'm such a creep, but I did correctly find out yer birth date without a visual reference. GO ME.tuxedoMask quote:Originally posted by RedScorp: And speaking of descendants, my Sun is exactly on yours... haha! i knoooow! i remember that! what do u think about my pluto? quote: Damn, nigga, sounds intense. What do you work as? If I recall correctly, you mentioned something about a photo shoot... ARE YOU A MODEL? :'DI suppose that's where you've been, hm? Living dat busy life. Well alright, I tried not to miss you (tried being a key word). >w>One more thing! I'm sorry I'm such a creep, but I did correctly find out yer birth date without a visual reference. GO ME.did u try and prove to be successful? lol.. i dunno scorpy, i try to keep as much of my personal life details from here as i can because that way i can talk about pretty much anything, share almost anything or comment on anyone's thread and be helpful without any of it turning into a reference point for perception. i think i replied to your message that talked about that? i don't remember.. i kept getting messages from, out of all people, myself that were being sent from some 'babe in russia' and i thought it was being sent out to everyone else so eventually, i think all of my messages were filtered and not sure which one's of yours i was able to get or not. :/even got locked out of my acct for a while but whatevez, what can ya do? lol RedScorp quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask: did u try and prove to be successful? lol.. i dunno scorpy, i try to keep as much of my personal life details from here as i can because that way i can talk about pretty much anything, share almost anything or comment on anyone's thread and be helpful without any of it turning into a reference point for perception. i think i replied to your message that talked about that? i don't remember.. i kept getting messages from, out of all people, myself that were being sent from some 'babe in russia' and i thought it was being sent out to everyone else so eventually, i think all of my messages were filtered and not sure which one's of yours i was able to get or not. :/even got locked out of my acct for a while but whatevez, what can ya do? lol Oh, okay, okay, I see. I'll not speak of any of this, on here, anymore. Sorry about mentioning the shoot thing.About the success thing, yee boi, I believe I was very successful. But I suppose we can talk about that elsewhere, yeah?But uh, no, I haven't gotten a reply for like, weeks now. I just shrugged it off, yo'.EDIT! How's about I send you an email, to see if things are working now?NativelyJoan . We actually have similar charts. I'm a Libra Sun, but we both share Mars in Aries, and Mercury in Libra. We've got similar thought processes it would seem with the same Mercury. My Mercury is right in the middle of the 8th house and it's ruler is in the 7th. My Mars in the 1st house. What are your house positions? That might reveal more and how you express your energies. I've got Sun, Mercury, Pluto in the 8th. It's where all my Plutonian intensity comes from coupled with Moon and Mars in Aries, I'm a pool of passion and intensity. What I've realized with people like us, (intensely passionate) is that we have to learn to connect to who we are and develop a stronger sense of self, basically confidence. If we don't we will always be unsure of who we are and how we appear to other people. Maybe the uncertainty about your passionate nature comes from your Virgo Sun position. Wanting things to be systematic, not so raw. But there's something to be said about raw passion and natural intensity. Having Mars in Aries makes you passionate but honorable, it's a noble Mars placement. What you discuss about your passions and sexuality seem very Mars/Pluto related. Eyes Wide Shut has Pluto and the archetype of Scorpio written all over it. I'm starting to see consistencies . If you have any questions about me and personal experiences feel free to ask away. I keep many things to myself but it's always nice to connect with people through astrology who have similar natal placements.
if i can't so much unleash that monster out like that (pluto opposing one's ascendant can really be, from what i gather, overwhelming).. --what am i gonna do about everything else that i'm about? i never know how to go about it.. i was advised to save some of my 'drive' for about maybe chapter 2 or 3 or, ykno, just save it for later.. but i don't f*ckin read because i don't have the patience for it! so what the f*ck do i do!?
when the hell does it then become ok to let people know about everything else that has shaped you or has you reacting to things the way you do? i don't know if it might be me but i feel that when i share something with someone, it's really the tip of the iceberg and once i share that, they wanna know the rest and it turns into one big ol life in a short amt of time.. is it me? i don't know if much a lot of other people have experienced as much as i have because of how different my upbringing has been.
i don't know if perhaps people just don't unleash the beast, ever, and there is always a world apart between you and somebody else and maybe yeah, sometimes even the person you spend your time and share your bed with.
quote: http://youtu.be/pta5EkArXgA
You might have trouble being yourself if you feel like you have to hold back and what's the point. If you can't be yourself with other people you might as well not even try, it's exhausting to pretend to be someone your not. You're probably a person that's not only experienced many things but is repeatedly growing and changing shades as you evolve. Which I think everyone experiences but we all experience it at different paces.
I'm a very intense person, I can intimidate people by just sitting quietly, I have Mars Rising. And when you get me talking about something I'm very interested in and passionate about a different side of me comes to the surface. I can be very aggressive and you can hear the passion in my tone. I hold back when I need to stay composed in appropriate situations however when I'm around my family and friends or relationship partners it's a ball. We are all passionate and we get to be ourselves around each other and not hold back. I can only be myself if I can be honest and expressive if I can't I hold back and feel like I'm being dishonest with myself.
It's hard having so much passion it feels like it's going to burst out of you and having to stay composed for what feels like every moment. Stay true to yourself, one day you'll find someone who will be in awe of your passion and drive. Like you the beast comes out naturally, I can keep it underwater for as long as I can stand it but if I'm true to myself the beast stays happy and doesn't remain dormant and come out when I and the world least expects it.
I have Moon and Mars in Aries.
"Can you express your feelings for me in a manner different than...that?"
And I said "NOPE!" but then later tried and it made me supah unhappy (probably because they asked I hold hands in public and not be afraid to cuddle in front of guests ALL THE TIME).
So, Aries Mars, I don't blame you, if my own PASSION! can sympathize.
quote:Originally posted by anongrl10:Joan speaks my mind.Be yourself. The right person will appreciate it. I know where you're coming from; Mars in on my ASC and trining Uranus (my chart ruler), squaring my Venus and my Moon. I'm sweet and mellow (Venus in Scorpio) until you step on my toes on purpose. LOL And yes I'm quite fiery and some people have criticized this about me. But you know what. You gotta love yourself. Nobody will ever understand YOU and accept YOU more than YOU yourself.
that's what kinda scares me.. i feel like i'll be with someone and live something not unlike that mr & mrs. smith movie or eyes wide shut.. btw, eyes wide shut is one of my favorite movies of all time because i think it's just FANTASTIC!!! but living that out in a real life scenario? kinda freaky..
that's what i think i already feel like.. if it were the case where NO one ever knows or spends enough time with someone to understand or trust or know what the other one is all about, then ok, someone just say the word so that i can get a move on and go from there.. because i feel we've been sold these fairy tale dreams of how relationships are supposed to go and --whateva.. i don't want to go off on a rant but i'd just prefer knowing where everything and everyone stands to know where i'll be going and from there, at least know what would be appropriate to share and not to share.. because for some reason i have this belief that you're supposed to share all of you but all of me is a lot, man.. i dunno how comfortable i'd feel in sharing all that.
OR IF I'VE GOT THE TIME!!!!!
quote:Hmm...dunno, man. I guess that one person just didn't have what it takes to handle you? Like, this one relationship I was in once said:"Can you express your feelings for me in a manner different than...that?"And I said "NOPE!" but then later tried and it made me supah unhappy (probably because they asked I hold hands in public and not be afraid to cuddle in front of guests ALL THE TIME).So, Aries Mars, I don't blame you, if my own PASSION! can sympathize.
LOL!!!!!! "NOPE!"
pretty much! what's in ur seventh, boo boo?
i've missed u pookie!
i remember one relationship with a person that was from the get-go trying to get me to question my ways.. they would do small stuff like try to ask me why i was late somewhere when the time we agreed to meet didn't get them somewhere on time.. i remember i had made it a point to make it there the time we agreed upon and they kept pushing the issue trying to get me to question if maybe i was mistaken... i found out eventually that they were VERY wrecked!! they played all sorts of tricks to get me to do things i wasn't so much comfortable with kinda like the cuddle thing.. last night, i felt like a weirdo..
after that experience of having someone be underhanded to try to get me to question myself (which would let my mars come out full blast --then they'd back off and say something like 'whoa man, what's your problem'.. ummm, helooo!?) reading these replies and taking that weirdo-ness and running with it, make me feel way more comfortable than trying to change it or hide it to then be molded into what someone else wants and be utterly unhappy and completely disoriented! not a nice feeling!!!!!!!!!
i'm thinking that there's no end and it's a lifelong thing.. i went to this fetish party a few days ago thinking i'd feel more at ease around people in that community and not so much.. they were more accepting and open but then my 'normalness' was kind of pointed out by some of them..
proverbial sisyphus.
quote:Also, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN, Tuxy-baby?
think i've done a little good since last time we talked.. yesterday was the only day that i can think back to as of late that i've been able to have a nice time relaxing because before that, since we talked and in between til now, things were sooooooooooooooo hectic! i was not stopping! i was doing 26 hr days with about 3 hrs of sleep in between and running on energy drinks and not much of anything else!
i've been wanting to really just find my footing again and maybe enjoy some grounding to a healthy extent.. so much has happened in just a few days.
don't where where i'd begin so i think i might start today by doing some fall cleaning but, alas, i think it always starts that way and it only does the trick temporarily :/
quote:Originally posted by NativelyJoan:From reading your posts on the forum and getting a chance to understand you better I'd say you're a very passionate person. You've probably dealt with a lot in your life and that just adds to the intensity of who you are. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because in a sense I'm the same way but other people might not be on the same intensity level as you. Which of course isn't anyone's fault it's just that we are all very different. You might have trouble being yourself if you feel like you have to hold back and what's the point. If you can't be yourself with other people you might as well not even try, it's exhausting to pretend to be someone your not. You're probably a person that's not only experienced many things but is repeatedly growing and changing shades as you evolve. Which I think everyone experiences but we all experience it at different paces. I'm a very intense person, I can intimidate people by just sitting quietly, I have Mars Rising. And when you get me talking about something I'm very interested in and passionate about a different side of me comes to the surface. I can be very aggressive and you can hear the passion in my tone. I hold back when I need to stay composed in appropriate situations however when I'm around my family and friends or relationship partners it's a ball. We are all passionate and we get to be ourselves around each other and not hold back. I can only be myself if I can be honest and expressive if I can't I hold back and feel like I'm being dishonest with myself.It's hard having so much passion it feels like it's going to burst out of you and having to stay composed for what feels like every moment. Stay true to yourself, one day you'll find someone who will be in awe or your passion and drive. Like you the beast comes out naturally, I can keep it underwater for as long as I can stand it but if I'm true to myself the beast stays happy and doesn't remain dormant and come out when I and the world least expects it. I have Moon and Mars in Aries.
It's hard having so much passion it feels like it's going to burst out of you and having to stay composed for what feels like every moment. Stay true to yourself, one day you'll find someone who will be in awe or your passion and drive. Like you the beast comes out naturally, I can keep it underwater for as long as I can stand it but if I'm true to myself the beast stays happy and doesn't remain dormant and come out when I and the world least expects it.
wow.. what does your chart look like?> i feel such a close connection to you and everything that you've said when we exchange posts.. it's like we're 'there' !
quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask:what's in ur seventh, boo boo?i've missed u pookie!
Oh Tuxy-baby. I have an empty seventh house, descendant in Aries. Uh, Mars in 10th. Mercury and Venus in the 1st.
And speaking of descendants, my Sun is exactly on yours...
quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask:think i've done a little good since last time we talked.. yesterday was the only day that i can think back to as of late that i've been able to have a nice time relaxing because before that, since we talked and in between til now, things were sooooooooooooooo hectic! i was not stopping! i was doing 26 hr days with about 3 hrs of sleep in between and running on energy drinks and not much of anything else!
Damn, nigga, sounds intense. What do you work as? If I recall correctly, you mentioned something about a photo shoot... ARE YOU A MODEL? :'D
I suppose that's where you've been, hm? Living dat busy life. Well alright, I tried not to miss you (tried being a key word). >w>
One more thing! I'm sorry I'm such a creep, but I did correctly find out yer birth date without a visual reference. GO ME.
quote:Originally posted by RedScorp: And speaking of descendants, my Sun is exactly on yours...
haha! i knoooow! i remember that! what do u think about my pluto?
quote: Damn, nigga, sounds intense. What do you work as? If I recall correctly, you mentioned something about a photo shoot... ARE YOU A MODEL? :'DI suppose that's where you've been, hm? Living dat busy life. Well alright, I tried not to miss you (tried being a key word). >w>One more thing! I'm sorry I'm such a creep, but I did correctly find out yer birth date without a visual reference. GO ME.
did u try and prove to be successful? lol..
i dunno scorpy, i try to keep as much of my personal life details from here as i can because that way i can talk about pretty much anything, share almost anything or comment on anyone's thread and be helpful without any of it turning into a reference point for perception.
i think i replied to your message that talked about that? i don't remember..
i kept getting messages from, out of all people, myself that were being sent from some 'babe in russia' and i thought it was being sent out to everyone else so eventually, i think all of my messages were filtered and not sure which one's of yours i was able to get or not. :/
even got locked out of my acct for a while but whatevez, what can ya do? lol
quote:Originally posted by tuxedoMask: did u try and prove to be successful? lol.. i dunno scorpy, i try to keep as much of my personal life details from here as i can because that way i can talk about pretty much anything, share almost anything or comment on anyone's thread and be helpful without any of it turning into a reference point for perception. i think i replied to your message that talked about that? i don't remember.. i kept getting messages from, out of all people, myself that were being sent from some 'babe in russia' and i thought it was being sent out to everyone else so eventually, i think all of my messages were filtered and not sure which one's of yours i was able to get or not. :/even got locked out of my acct for a while but whatevez, what can ya do? lol
Oh, okay, okay, I see. I'll not speak of any of this, on here, anymore. Sorry about mentioning the shoot thing.
About the success thing, yee boi, I believe I was very successful. But I suppose we can talk about that elsewhere, yeah?
But uh, no, I haven't gotten a reply for like, weeks now. I just shrugged it off, yo'.
EDIT! How's about I send you an email, to see if things are working now?
What are your house positions? That might reveal more and how you express your energies.
I've got Sun, Mercury, Pluto in the 8th. It's where all my Plutonian intensity comes from coupled with Moon and Mars in Aries, I'm a pool of passion and intensity. What I've realized with people like us, (intensely passionate) is that we have to learn to connect to who we are and develop a stronger sense of self, basically confidence. If we don't we will always be unsure of who we are and how we appear to other people. Maybe the uncertainty about your passionate nature comes from your Virgo Sun position. Wanting things to be systematic, not so raw. But there's something to be said about raw passion and natural intensity. Having Mars in Aries makes you passionate but honorable, it's a noble Mars placement.
What you discuss about your passions and sexuality seem very Mars/Pluto related. Eyes Wide Shut has Pluto and the archetype of Scorpio written all over it. I'm starting to see consistencies . If you have any questions about me and personal experiences feel free to ask away. I keep many things to myself but it's always nice to connect with people through astrology who have similar natal placements.
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